Human beings must be known to be loved but Divine beings must be loved to be known.
I think that Sufism fits all over the world. The concept is not anything that fits standard Western ideas – it’s always related to culture, to music, to religion. It is a dominant religion in Senegal.
It just so happens that the green religion is now taking over from the Christian religion. I don’t think people have noticed that, but it’s got all the sort of terms that religions use… The greens use guilt. That just shows how religious greens are. You can’t win people round by saying they are guilty for putting (carbon dioxide) in the air.
I mean, I went to a Catholic boys’ school for a year, but that was to play hockey. Religion class was quite contentious for me.